two prayers answered

on friday the 13th
the gods seem to be listening.......
or is the super and the subconcious...????
ur inputs friends......been long i have seemm anybody who seem to be logging in and putting their inputs
kya baat hai titash?????? we dont love the same gods but we do love gods isnt it?

ahem! am i allowed here?

so here goes......shadows has been on a ignore god spree in the last few months but seems that she is back......
recently she picked a bible from a friends place (u cud call this place secular....coz we have people from all faiths in india here....atleast the main ones.......a hindu, a muslim, a sikh, and a guy who believes more in the church than the temple.......{ok ok i know thr are other faiths too but i guess this proof of secularity is enough ....considering that this 2 bedroom appartment accomodates only these many guys}).....hmm and i was told that i shouldnt pick it up coz i wont value it!....hm in a way he is right.....a lot of people wont value another religions holy book.....but i think it is great way of knowing that (god or no god) all religions have a basic core......AND that core is what humanity is based on........considering that i read it only for the sake of reading it ....and knowing that all pieces of literature poetry art music can only come from god......to me beauty comes from god.......

that brings me to the point as to why i am writing this post at all........
a friend asked me in the wee hours....."do u believe in god?" a question to me who was in complete denial..........denial of god ....denial of his grace,
anyway .....im in denial of his grace even now.....but then the sinple question with a simpkle answer......."yes" or a "no"
i couldnt let myself say "no" coz no matter what ...i can only say yes.......god exists......inside me......like in all......but well gracefull he isnt.......still isnt.....
maybe as mayank says "there are times when u shud leave things to him." something that some one else also said "ur not omnipotent......u cant handle everything"....so i leave it to him/her.......lets see what it brings to me......now im learning urdu.....i wanna read the quran sharif in urdu.......no arabic is too tough for me! aqnd maybe i will learn hebrew some day too........
allah hafiz.....

God for Cissy

... Every time Cissy went into a cave, she found herself thinking about God, the God who stacked rock on rock and watched over fatherless girls.
God was Delia's voice in the darkness when Cissy was tired, so soft and clear she almost believed the voice to be real. God was the thing outside herself, that enormous desire to shatter into a thousand living pieces and burn. God was the moment past orgasm, lying spent, belly-down on her own bed with her hand over her mouth-nothing she wanted any of her family to know about.
... Amanda's God was not Cissy's God. Amanda's God counted sins and dealt out penance. Cissy's God breathed righteousness and fire. Amanda's God awarded fat babies and back porches. Cissy's God was the pure risk of some impossible expiation-Jesus on the Cross of the body in extremis, the chance of redemption in the aweful dark. Her God was a grin in the darkness, the agony that rode around her shoulders when she swam so far her muscles gave out... Probably, she told herself, God had to hide in caves these days.

*Excerpt from Cavedweller by Dorothy Allison. Delia is Cissy's mother whom Cissy hated. Amanda is Cissy's step sister who believes that all God cares about is going to the church. I loved Cissy's idea of God when I read this part, and thought of posting it here.

god wont help aparna.....

he has always hated her...and she wishes she knew why....
either he is sadist or he is just too hatefull
i do not bow to any such god.....
for all the smiles he has made for me....there are a million more tears.....
the road ends here.......please keep this blog up.....i wud like to hear more about this person who has hated me for so long...longer than i thought he could.....

can god help aparna

or more so,
whether aparna believes that or not?

some more answers...

who or what is GOD?

• Man is god. Or potentially god.
• True divinity is within. But to reach inside and realise this, is the challenge we all fail.
• To believe in ones self and to take responsibility of everything in life - that is god.
• There is no other god anywhere else.

how will u define GOD?

• Just answered that above.

what place does he have in ur life?

• Well its like asking...what place do you have in your own life? :)

from 'titash nodir tire'

this is something i read in a blog tracin jesus -1

Close your eyes. Take a deep breath. Silence the voices within. Go deaf to the voices without. Relax. And then feel the force that is in you. The force that has infinite power to do good. The force that makes you feel positive, happy and in harmony with your surroundings. That is the god within you. The stronger you feel this force, the closer you are to divinity. The closer you are to god. And when you open your eyes, you smile and only goodness comes out of you. Good actions, good speech, good thought.

You are now Jesus. Jesus the god, Jesus the divine. You are also Muhammad. You are also Ram, Buddha. You are one with the divine being.



read on.......for more......
he has a good blog......and funnily he is aethist

my reply to shadows

She asks:
" who or what is GOD?"

I say:

A faith, that sets things back on track,
A fulfiller of things we lack,
A hope a belief an inspiration,
An icon for adoration.
Someone who holds me when I fall,
Someone who wants to reach out to you and awaits your call
Someone who soothes me when I am perturbed
Someone who makes your sorrows curbed.
I never saw Him or an image of like
But I know he stands like a guide,
Near me, by me, inside me and above
Ever protecting me safely in his cove.

She asks:

"how will u define GOD?"
I answer:

What can be the definition of "All"? "Everything"?
"Everyone"? Or "Whole"?
Doesn't defining limit their vast meaning?
Vast. No not vast - Endless.

She asks:

" what place does he have in ur life?"
I answer:

He has a place
Of the most important best friend, whom I couldn't ever lie, and never felt like it.
Of someone who knows me better than anyone else and guides me all through the path of life.
Of someone whose decision and help I value more than anything else in life.
Of someone who always answers my prayers...Hmm, probably almost always. Who makes the person next door smile when I pray to Him.
Of someone who keeps his hands placed around the candle so that its dimness doesn't get extinguished with time. The candle is that of hope and it is Him who keeps it lit all the time.

dads reply to me ......

" who or what is GOD? : Everything dear to you is god.
OR
"how will u define GOD?" : Perfection

followed by......

" what place does he have in ur life?" : Sometimes I give the credit to myself or blame somebody else but he is behind everything happening in my life and he has a motive.



pik http://www.iskcon.net/peru/galeria_ni%C3%B1o_krishna.htm
Krsna en el bosque

sreyamsa's answer to my mail

GOD IS SOMEONE WHO KEEPS TELLING ME EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT HE IS RIGHT THERE BESIDES ME..........EVEN AS I AM TYPING THIS HE IS HELPING ME OUT AND SMILING AT MY REPLY.

WHENEVER I FACE SOME TROUBLE IN LIFE I FALL BACK ON HIM AND HE IS ALWAYS THERE TO CATCH ME AND PUT MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK...............THIS HAS TAUGHT ME TO SHARE MY BEST TIMES WITH HIM AS WELL........WHY SHOULD WE REMEMBER HIM ONLY WHEN WE ARE FACING TROUBLES????????? IT IS BECAUSE OF HIM THAT WE R HAPPY AND THOSE MOMENTS ARE TO B SHARED WITH HIM AS WELL...(IT MAKES THOSE MOMENTS XTRA SPECIAL)

BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THAT HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TYPED IN THIS WHOLE THING BECAUSE HE WANTS U TO BELIEVE.

KEEP SMILING

GOD & BAIRI


picture....... "Hand of God" by Christel Saylor (after Auguste Rodin) www.sandhands.com 1996 Sculptures

a mail i wrote

this mail is to be replied when you have a lot of time in hand .......or read it...... its very small mail......answer it wen u have time....... please dont think this is some spam mail......i personally asked.......




the question is simple and direct.....

" who or what is GOD?"
OR
"how will u define GOD?"

followed by......

" what place does he have in ur life?"
.....

love aparna





p.s.
i dont know y i am asking this.....but well i asked so just answer......
vaise , i dont know what authority is ours to judge what god is.....but still he means differently to each one of us

Interesting conversation

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
Student is silent.

Prof: You can't answer, can you?
Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God...

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Now the student said can I ask something to you Professor.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.


Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. .

(I got this in an e-mail.. )

the first question

is there god?
before loving or hating someone or something, shouldn't we first think whether there is an entity like that?
i wonder what 'shadows' wud say about this.
and other people?
is there god? what proof do we have? could anyone convince me of his/her presence.
pls. do answer.

adi.

do i or not?

i will just start....i do and i dont...it depends on whats the seen with him
rather like he is my friend...so things do blow hot and cold between us ....thats about it from me and him....
neverthless i cant stop believing him....thats what faith is all about isnt it.....just coz he failed me i cant stop loving him can i?